Clowns & Jokers

Stuck in the middle.... Left, right, centre. It's a mess out there.

Wednesday, August 09, 2006

"CHURCHILL did not win the war by kowtowing to pettifogging bureaucracy. He smoked that cigar wherever he pleased, and puffed its cloud with the insouciance of a man who knew he was in charge.

But then the Greatest Englishman only had to deal with the likes of Hitler and Stalin; he had the good fortune to live in the days before the Scottish Parliament and its enforcers, the environmental health inspectors of the City of Edinburgh Council

Indeed. Hitler and Stalin were nothing in comparison to the self styled charmless unscrupulous and stupid lefties and do gooders of our times, to borrow somewhat from the author of this piece.

Pre NaziLeft, the licencing laws were often ridiculed for their strictness ~ but they were only born out of a desire to have Englishmen focused before war broke out. Had this not be the case you could pretty much guarantee some snivelling lefty do gooding bigot would have insisted the laws be put IN place – and as always without consulting the wider public on laws that curtail their basic freedoms. The government has little think tanks, scientists and survey groups that act on our behalves nowadays.

I admire Spain's approach. Apparently they have introduced a smoking ‘ban’, which applies only to those bars that want to undertake it. Something which I argued for (only over at A Tangled Web as I recall!) but which seemed utterly beyond the comprehension of most little lefties. After all its democratic for a start. It allows bars to decide whether or not to apply the non smoking regulation as long as they clearly advise their customers by some kind of signage. If so much of the population is allegedly in favour of the ban – and speaking to some friends they would welcome it but aren’t so fussed – then surely there is an argument for a similar Spain style ban here. In other words there is a ‘market’ for it. And its democratic.

There is no argument though. Churchill stood more of a chance defeating the combined evils of Nazism and Communism then we do of defeating some of the unscrupulous charmless and stupid elements of modern day leftyism.

Elements of which have crept into the touchy feely Conservative Party - whose latest antics by the way, suitably enough for all their allying with the left, include changing the Conservative logo from a torch (symbol of FREEDOM) ……to a tree. And no I dont think, even as a great English oak, its a good indication of whats to come.

Incidentally I wonder did Margaret Thatcher or Elizabeth I need the assistance of David Cameron style positive disrimination for women - fast tracking them to the Cabinet? OK Elizabeth acquired her position by birth but she still had to carve her own way through the politics of the time. I'd rather the Cabinet were stacked with talent than bitching females all vying for his attention reliant on their gender rather than their talent.

As Mel Smith said pointedly in the article in relation to the play joykillers not the Tories: “Do these people have any self-respect?"

The City Councillors reponse was he would ‘have to live with it’. Applies more generally don’t you think?


At Wednesday, 09 August, 2006, Blogger Jo said...


The argument against smoking in public where others can and area affected is a health issue not a killjoy issue. Personally, I would allow bar owners derogation from the law (which it will be soon) and give them freedom to subject their staff to smoke. Then... drive them out of business with punitive damages as and when their staff sued them for deliberately subjection them to carcinogens.

Arguing for civil liberties is one thing - trying to return the right to life to those killed by exposure to smoke is another. Why do you not exercise your civil liberty to fit out your home and those of your family with asbestos? Damn nanny state making it illegal...after all its a fire retardant. :)

At Wednesday, 09 August, 2006, Anonymous Maggie said...

So David Cameron is going to create a new emblem for the Tory Party, an Oak tree or somesuch. May I suggest he change this to a picture of a 'Hoodie' with the new Tory slogan 'Hug a Hoodie' beneath.

He is going down well with the electorate, managed to turn a large majority in Bromley area into a miserable few hundred. Wake up Tory Part DC is a liability! (copied from another comment - Peter Glover's blog) must love Alison's can argue against everything she says..must really make your day. Bet you wake up each day and tune into Making Headlines ready to do battle! Might just agree with you re smoking but I still admire Spain's attitude with regard to choice instead of a blanket coverage of You Will Not. Now who is going to create a bar for drinkers only.

At Wednesday, 09 August, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

My proposal, I thought, was a fair one no? Giving freedoms to all to choose where and how to enjoy themselves. Applying your logic we should really shut down all the pubs and bars anyway - alcohol kills quite a few people a year I heard!

At Wednesday, 09 August, 2006, Blogger Jacqui said...

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At Wednesday, 09 August, 2006, Blogger Jo said...

Alisons blog is very civil (so far, hope that isnt tempting fate.) After a few clashes, we have settled into a reasonably friendly blogging relationship :))

At least Maggie you and I can agree (ie you can see sense) once in a while! From formidable female agreement did all of history come about. :)

Of course alcohol is a dangerous and damaging thing, but as I am currrently teetotal I'll keep that oen for another day lest I appear a complete goody two shoes. :) 30% of the NHS and therefore a high % of your tax goes to the treatment of smoking related illness, its something to which there is both a moral and economic aspect. Less money means less freedom doesnt it?

BTW liver failure stats are rising - and in the under 40s. Oh dear.

At Wednesday, 09 August, 2006, Anonymous Maggie said...

Yes isn't it great you, me and Alison aren't covered in burquas (spelling?) and confined to four walls. Would that freedom could be applied to all females in the world.

Anyway we are all now agreed, no smoking, no drinking and definitely no that is a killer!

p.s. I can see the sense of lots of things if put to me intelligently!

At Wednesday, 09 August, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

LOL touche Maggie

Did you see Jon Snow on Dispatches? He asked some silly little British girl covered in her burqa why she wore it - she launched into the textbook reply and asked him what his issue was implying knee jerk islamophobia - he replied simply 'well i just prefer to see the face im talking to?' She was gobsmacked (though you couldnt tell)

OK ladies - so how do I get onto Camerons shortlist. Just imagine Jo! It wouldnt take me long to topple Cameron, he's a plank. What an easy way to make it to the top eh. Its about time the world at least had a good looking right wing British woman politician on the world stage. Margaret THATCHER not withstanding of course! The left wing Margaret back to 'TALENT'!

At Thursday, 10 August, 2006, Blogger Jo said...

I'll allow you "good looking right wing woman." :) I wouldnt insult you by even beginning to think that Maggie T fell into that bracket. (Don't know about this Maggie here tho :)) What you do appear to have is something he doesnt...erm..better rephrase that. You've got passion, he wouldnt know what that was. :)

At Thursday, 10 August, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL I think that's an underhand compliment there from Jo... It can be difficult to tell!

She's saying you have ... Chutzpah! Unlike Cameron!

At Friday, 11 August, 2006, Blogger Jo said...

I thought it was a fairly unambiguous compliment acually ;) I think she would make a good Leaderene of the Right and of course sacrifice her entire career to work in Opposition to a Jo-led Left/Centre government of social equalisers. I already have Jacqui in mind for Foreign Secretary :)

At Friday, 11 August, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Chutzpah - great word.

Work in Opposition eh...


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