Clowns & Jokers

Stuck in the middle.... Left, right, centre. It's a mess out there.

Sunday, July 16, 2006

Opinion keeping me sane

And the 'G8 blame the terrorists for de stabilising the region' is the current headline. Thought id stick that in there now for posterity in case they change their mind. 'They' being the media or our esteemed leaders.



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**Bit of a rough old cut and paste summary of world opinion. Pro Israel.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Sunday that Group of Eight leaders were demanding
Hizbollah release captured Israelis and halt attacks on Israel as the way to end an upsurge in Middle East violence.

"We demand first that the Israeli soldiers be returned to Israel healthy, that the attacks on Israel cease, and then naturally for Israel to halt military action," she told reporters.

Minister of Foreign Affairs Ben Bot has reportedly told Israel that the Dutch government understands Israel's situation and reaction. He also said that it would be more difficult
for The Netherlands to support Olmert if there are too many Lebanese civilian casualties.
He - therefore - urged Israel too do her best to prevent such civilians casualties.

Harper PM of Canada sides firmly with Israel

"Responsibility for the escalating violence in the Middle East rests entirely with those who have kidnapped Israeli soldiers", Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Thursday.

U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair joined President George W. Bush in blaming Iran and Syria for the escalation in violence in the Middle East, raising pressure on the two nations as missiles fired from Lebanon killed eight people in Israel.

``There are those in the region, notably Iran and Syria, who do not want this process of democratization and negotiation to succeed,'' Blair said today after a meeting with Bush in St. Petersburg, Russia, during the Group of Eight summit.

``There has been a real hesitation to put the real truth of this situation''

Then we get to France, so far only France:

Jacques Chirac questioned whether Israel was seeking Lebanon's destruction. "One may well ask if there isn't today a kind of wish to destroy Lebanon -- its infrastructure, its roads, its communications, its energy, its airport. And for what?

"I find honestly -- as all Europeans do -- that the current reactions are totally disproportionate," he said in a live television interview on France's national Bastille Day.

You do NOT speak for all Europeans Chirac! Listen to the lady (Merkel)..and moi, ok not so ladylike:

Fuck off, you arrogant spent crook. Speak for all? You certainly do not.

(Im trying to find what Sarkozy, long time supporter of Israel, said on French news tonight, sounded good but I only caught the end. There is hope for France)

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Dr Shaban of the Syrian government was on Sky this evening talking absolute BULLSHIT. Her opinion was that Israel wanted to retake Lebanon and occupy it. Leftspeak.

Fortunately the former ISRAELI PM was there to take her on. Notably dumbfounded:-

(sorry about caps!)

WHAT IN HEAVENS NAME IS SHE TALKING ABOUT?!
IT WAS A WOMAN RIGHT? (OUCH!)

WHAT OCCUPATION?!
UNDER UN resolution 1559: ISRAEL LEAVES LEBANON
LEBANON ARE TO POLICE HIZBOLLAH
WE KEPT OUR PART
THEY DID NOT.

HIZBOLLAH THEN ROUNDS WITH HAMAS AND KIDNAPS
AN ISRAELI SOLDIER
FIRES RICKETS INTO OUR CITIES

HONESTLY - WHAT OCCUPATION IS SHE ON ABOUT?

HIZBOLLAH IS A PROXY OF IRAN AS IS HAMAS
WE LEFT ON CREDIT
IN FUTURE ANY UNILTAERAL WITHDRAWALS NEED TO BE ACCOMPANIED
BY DISMANTLING OF TERRORIST CAPABILITIES O/W THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE ALL WANT HAPPENS
NOW IT IS DOWN TO US - WE HAVE TO DISARM THEM. THIS WAS NOT WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY HAS TO SUPPORT US

MODERATE ARABS ARE HOPING WE DO IT B/C THEY KNOW
THEY WOULD BE A TARGET FOR ATTACK OR AT LEAST THEY PERCEIVE A REAL DANGER IN THIS REGION

NO TALK OF A CEASEFIRE.
HIZBOLLAH WANT A CEASEFIRE
TO REGROUP AND RE ARM TO LULL OURSELVES INTO A SLEEP
AS DEMOCRACIES HAVE DONE IN THE PAST

THIS THREAT HAS TO BE REMOVED
TODAY IT IS DIRECTED AT US
TOMORROW IT WILL BE DIRECTED AT ALL OF THE FREE WORLD
360 RADIUS IS AN INTERESTING MISSILE RADIUS DONT YOU THINK?
ISRAEL WILL DO THE WORLD A FAVOUR BE REMOVING THIS THREAT
IN THE MIDDLE EAST

THEY HIDE AMONG THEIR COMMUNITIES HIDE BEHIND CIVILIANS
WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO MINIMISE BUT YOU CANT DO AWAY WITH THIS
THIS IS THE WHOLE HIZBOLLAH STRATEGY

THERE IS A CANCER INSIDE LEBANON

THE REGION WILL BE FAR MORE STABLE WHEN HIZBOLLAH ARE REMOVED

DEMOCRACY CAN ONLY OVERCOME TERROR BY FIGHTING IT
WE CANNOT LET THESE EXTREMISTS STOCKPILE WEAPONS
AND ANNOUNCE ITS INTENTION TO WIPE US OFF THE MAP

YOU WOULDNT ALLOW IT AND NEITHER WILL WE

Too right. And good to see the Sky correspondent not get a word in edgeways. (kudos that they aired it though)

11 Comments:

At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger Tom Tyler said...

WTF..??? Just checked out that top poll again...as at 16:04 the results are very different.
Do all the moonbats not get out of bed before midday? Or is there something fishy going on?
What I mean is, assuming that Sky's polling system is truly random and fraud-proof, then you'd expect that after 8000 votes, the emerging pattern would be accurate enough, with no further huge swings expected (MORI etc only poll 1000 or 2000 people for their "who would you vote for", after all). And oddly enough, as I write this, the balance of opinion on the "Lebanon" poll (your second pic) still looks roughly the same as when you screengrabbed it.
I'm no statistician, but something seems a bit odd here.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It stinks...possibly power of the email again.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger jonz said...

Possibly their polling system allows you to vote multiple times.
I've just tried clicking refresh on the page after clicking yes, and watching the votes change. There's no message to say you've already voted...

But something definitely fishy going on.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

It doesnt allow you to vote multiple times. And you do get a message.

I think Tom is right and the moonbats got out of bed late - however if you check again tomorrow it will have changed again. Ive seen this over and over on Sky.

the other sky one is still the same

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger jonz said...

Pickled Politics is driving me nuts. Check out these comments.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

'Leave them with nothing to lose'. Erm, I imagine thats how Hitler strategised.

This is a joke right?

The G8 have woken up to the fact that the Lebanese government didnt adhere to its UN mandate ergo fuck Hizbollah. As Israel have said if you wont sort it out we will.

I doubt moonbats get that.

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Blogger jonz said...

Good discussion on BBC News right now, with Aavonavitch from The Tines and Daley from The Telegraph

 
At Sunday, 16 July, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Thanks...Did you/anyone see the ex Israeli PM on SKY he was AWESOME. In fact ill stick the transcipt up it was so cool.

btw guys - The web poll had crept back up again but it keeps crashing...if you have any more luck let me know.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Blogger Wolfie said...

I wouldn't bother concerning yourself with online polls, a friend of mine "in the media" assured me some time ago that they are mostly rigged. Lets face it, Sky viewers are not calling the shots.

Accurate reporting is a much more important issue.

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Not necessarily true Wolfie - i know some NewsInt people..they use them for their own research on public opinion to gauge what editorial might be interesting to run. The interactive TV voting is a bit dodgy though.

They arent scientific, no, but they are an interesting indicator. If anything id expect the BBC to defraid the recommended section!

 
At Monday, 17 July, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Ok well anyway its at over 1 million votes. Probably the most ive ever seen on a Sky poll. 70% in favour.

 

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