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Stuck in the middle.... Left, right, centre. It's a mess out there.

Saturday, May 12, 2007

Blogging is Bollocks - part 1

It is our job continually to retest old assumptions and to seek new ideas. But we must not try to find one unalterable answer that will solve all our problems for none can exist. Margaret Thatcher

I'm trying to get into perspective why i think blogging is a load of old bollocks and why its best left.
First up: The Right in the US and UK.... & Tony Blair.
Not your average homo-lefticus - credit where its due, morons!

From what ive read so far, the Right in the UK and US are happy to see the back of a man who stood firm after 9/11, took this country to war to fight terrorism, acted as a sort of Lawyer to the often hopeless George W Bush and who stood firm on Israel - all at a time many on the Left would have sold their souls to the devil on any of these issues. The right wing blogosphere spends a great deal of time issuing criticism to the Left on its reaction to 9/11, the War on Terror, Israel, anti-semitism, anti-americanism and the failure to grasp what it feels (uniquely you could be forgiven for thinking), is a basic fight for our shared values.

Interesting then that in their sending off of Tony Blair ive not see one sincere mention of the mans single and often lonely ability to cut through all of those apparently massively important issues in his own party and make a decent number of points.

Mr Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister between 1996 and 1999, speaking about Tony Blair last year during the Hitzbollah-Israeli conflict:

He said he believed Mr Blair had correctly judged this situation: "that this is not a local conflict between two tribes". He said Hezbollah regarded Israel as "the first step on the way to an Islamic empire"

"It is a mad wisdom and it should not be dismissed because it's mad, just as Hitler - he started off as an attack on the Jews and this is the same thing," he said.

"Tony Blair understands this. Some of the chattering classes do not. They learnt nothing from history. They really think it is a problem with Israel.

"Mr Blair is doing a great deal. He's standing up for his beliefs - he is nobody's puppet.

"He genuinely understands what is the correct picture. He is getting attacked from every side.

That makes him more of a leader, not less so.

"Leadership is tested in doing the unpopular things - not going with the flow."

Please show me a Western leader who has, on the international stage, been as outspoken on these apparently massive issues as Tony Blair or one who has dedicated as much energy since 9/11? At a time when we could have been under some nutjob commie, here we have a leader that makes clear his position on Israel. On democracy. On supporting our values. On reaffirming the problem of islamism. On daring to suggest that pernicious forces are at work globally formenting anti western opinion and who sees it as a wholly international problem. Anyone would think these issues are the kind to be easily unpicked. How can you implement anything at home and abroad when it takes the energy it does to sell the idea in the first place? And if the manner in which he went about it at home wasnt up to scratch where were the big demos, the outrage..in fact come to think of it where is there any challenge from Opposition or opposition? I get the feeling its easier to point the finger and bemoan the fate of democracy than play a part in defining it.

Blair party speech
2006:

"This is a struggle that will last a generation and more. But this I believe passionately: we will not win until we shake ourselves free of the wretched capitulation to the propaganda of the enemy, that somehow we are the ones responsible.This terrorism isn't our fault. We didn't cause it. It's not the consequence of foreign policy. It's an attack on our way of life. It's global. It has an ideology"

"Yes it's hard sometimes to be America's strongest ally. Yes, Europe can be a political headache for a proud sovereign nation like Britain. But believe me there are no half-hearted allies of America today and no semi-detached partners in Europe. And the truth is that nothing we strive for, from the world trade talks to global warming, to terrorism and Palestine can be solved without America, or without Europe"

Blair on Israeli conflict
2006:

"The purpose of the provocation that began the conflict in Lebanon was clear. It was to create chaos and to provoke retaliation by Israel that would lead to Arab and Muslim opinion being inflamed, not against those who started the aggression but against those who responded to it."
The point is this. This is war, but of a completely unconventional kind....9/11 in the US, 7/7 in the UK, 11/3 in Madrid, the countless terrorist attacks in countries as disparate as Indonesia or Algeria, what is now happening in Afghanistan and in Indonesia, the continuing conflict in Lebanon and Palestine, it is all part of the same thing. What are the values that govern the future of the world? Are they those of tolerance, freedom, respect for difference and diversity or those of reaction, division and hatred? My point is that this war can't be won in a conventional way. It can only be won by showing that our values are stronger, better and more just, more fair than the alternative. Doing this, however, requires us to change dramatically the focus of our policy..." ...."And most contemporaneously, and in some ways most perniciously, a very large and, I fear, growing part of our opinion looks at Israel, and thinks we pay too great a price for supporting it and sympathises with Muslim opinion that condemns it. Absent from so much of the coverage, is any understanding of the Israeli predicament..."

Blair - Council of Foreign Relations written piece in the US 2006

"....many in Western countries listen to the propaganda of the extremists and accept it. (And to give credit where it is due, the extremists play our own media with a shrewdness that would be the envy of many a political party.)"

"If we recognized this struggle for what it truly is, we would at least be on the first steps of the path to winning it. But a vast part of Western opinion is not remotely near this point yet.This ideology has to be taken on -- and taken on everywhere. Islamist terrorism will not be defeated until we confront not just the methods of the extremists but also their ideas. I do not mean just telling them that terrorist activity is wrong. I mean telling them that their attitude toward the United States is absurd, that their concept of governance is prefeudal, that their positions on women and other faiths are reactionary. We must reject not just their barbaric acts but also their false sense of grievance against the West, their attempt to persuade us that it isothers and not they themselves who are responsible for their violence"

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At Saturday, 12 May, 2007, Blogger Tu s. Tin said...

I came back to comment and saw you have added a quote, that was just what I was about to say... The answer is endless possiblities.
As for Blair, I commented on ATW after 9/11 his speech made me wish he was our leader, and I still mean that. He always came off as very "real" to me and often I could just see the frustration ozzing from him. The things I have seen people say are ridiclus?
Read yesterday something like "now the meida mulipulation will end"? If anything the media -at least in England- seemed to work against him... here in the US I feel the opposite tactic is used.
Either way people just follow along....
Then I see everyone give their opinion of him as a person ... Like they knew him personally enough to judge. Of course there are two sides given ..which really can go for any person ... You admire Thatcher ... another says she is the biggest regret Britian has ever seen? Some will even try to discredit Churchill's carature - he was a worthless drunk ... ect ect.
Fuck it.
The thing about blogging that scares me is now the media itself has taken notice ... but thats another topic.
Blogs and bloggers anymore? I've been stuck in a what to do place myself? .......... havent lost my motovation, just my insipation. I find I have a much better affect in person .... blog conversations, especially on more popular sites are kind of like everyone shouting all at once. For no other reason than they want to show how smart and right about everything they are, and either an endless debate or insults to how stupid the other is begin ......... grrrr!!!
Too much socrates in my head to join in that fight especially over politics.
I tend to focus on answers more than problems but putting the problem together as an equation is the first step.... one of them is the world has somehow become entirely fundamental.made a couple posts when I discovered this word.. maybe you can add to my thoughts on it....http://iamnotcrazyreally.blogspot.com/search?q=fundamental
anyway, I do know the answer, well socrates and a few others already gave the answer ... its testing the formula Im stuck in, and thats not even in the middle anymore...
To many people there now too....

 
At Saturday, 12 May, 2007, Blogger Alison said...

Thanks for your comment Tu. I always enjoy reading what you have to say as you put so much thought into it. Ive been a bit off blogging because my parents have been so ill lately - but also because blogging too often sucks - im trying to get many random thoughts together on this now as you can see. No they wont be right but theyre just what i feel.... Ill come over and read your post in a bit. Just going to take a break for a bit as i have to go out and meet my sis now.

 
At Monday, 14 May, 2007, Blogger pommygranate said...

Alison

I see you read my piece on Blair's legacy. I would be interested in your thoughts.

I also hear from the PP that you are about to jack in blogging. I only first discovered your blog following your comment last week, but have enjoyed perusing your blog.

Don't be put off by the knee-jerk right-wingers or the self-loating lefties. Our job as bloggers is to overcome most of these stupid arguments and put forward rationale and,hopefully, balanced pieces.

Re TB - I share your admiration for him in many ways but differ from you in one crucial regard.
Whilst he is the West's single most powerful orator in standing up to Islamic fascism, where he lets himself down is in the execution of his policies.

On his watch the UK has become a hornet's nest of Islamic activity. I only wish he could have followed up his superb rhetoric with action.

Don't give up the fight!

regards

 
At Monday, 14 May, 2007, Anonymous Steve said...

Pommy - the UK was a hornets' nest of Islamic activity long before Blair came to power, it's just that most people weren't paying attention until after 9/11.

 
At Monday, 14 May, 2007, Anonymous alison said...

Pommy & steve - thanks.

Thats sort of what i meant about 'unpicking' the issues which are deep rooted and not by any means limited to the UK eg they were NOT under Blairs watch as I discovered myself (thanks i should add to blogging). i think we have thrashed about over this long formenting issue since 9/11 but that its going to take years to sort out. I also am not 100% convinced the PM was supported at all times or himself knew HOW to sort it out internally. But then - I havent seen any Opposition ideas on the subject either.

 
At Tuesday, 15 May, 2007, Blogger James said...

Alison,
For foreign affairs, I would definitely give Blair 10/10.

For domestic, though...

There are domestic issues tied up with the war on Islamofascists which I think his government does just the opposite of what they should be doing.

 
At Tuesday, 15 May, 2007, Blogger jonz said...

I don't understand, you comment about how blair's government has faltered when it comes to islamofacsists...

Far from perfect, but they tried to bring in tough anti-terror legislation which was shouted down by both the left and the right...

 
At Friday, 18 May, 2007, Blogger James said...

Well, let's see, a taskforce made up of Inayat Bunglawala, Azzam Tamimi, and Tariq Ramadan to discuss Muslim disaffection, maybe? Talk about sleeping with the enemy.

All the money it gave to the MCB and the MAB and all the other little groups? They were actually subsidising these guys.

It has just been in the past two years that the government have begun to do anything of consequence.

 
At Tuesday, 22 May, 2007, Anonymous alison said...

James - Oh right, benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing. So if its THIS governments issue why is GWB following suit with CAIR?

 

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