Clowns & Jokers

Stuck in the middle.... Left, right, centre. It's a mess out there.

Thursday, November 09, 2006

Women - Know Your Place!

Following on from a previous post about Malalai Joya & stressing the importance of success for our forces in Afghanistan, I was pleased to find she also has a website,...together with an interesting piece dated October 27th posted here.

Malalai is an outspoken MP working in that mysoginist rathole, & risking her life daily. She warns:-

"Warlords who have now learned how to talk about democracy and women and how to wear a suit and a tie" - are no better than the Taliban:

"Every country that wants to prove itself as real and honest friends of the Afghan people must stop following the policy of the U.S., because this is not a real democracy and this is not a real war on terror. At one hand they are saying 'we fight the Taliban' and on the other we have members of parliament who are Taliban. The only way is to stop this policy. If they don't stop this policy, I am sure that one day there will be another September 11. Another September 11 will happen — because they are like the Taliban [and] they will act like the Taliban."

She goes on to explain....

"Look, they want again an office of 'vice and virtue,' just like the Taliban had, and which they used as a pretext for their crimes. This is the reason we want a secular government. With a secular government, they cannot commit their crimes in the name of Islam. Or in the name of Jihad. Until these warlords, these drug lords, who right now have the support of the U.S. and its allies in our country, until they become powerless, our people can never hope for democracy, women rights, human rights, and especially security in Afghanistan."

As one example of the approach that Joya objects to, Sen. Bill Frist, R-Tenn., while visiting Afghanistan two weeks ago, voiced his support for efforts to bring "people who call themselves Taliban into a larger, more representative government." (Remind you of anything?) She says these are the same "warlords and drug lords [who] committed lots of crimes when they were in power under the name of jihad and even now are committing lots of crimes under the name of jihad and Islam."

"I'd like to remind you how easy it was," she adds, "for the U.S. to destroy the government of the Taliban. It was very easy when they wanted it, right after 9/11. And I would like to tell you, and especially those countries around the world that support these criminals who are now in the government, that they have the same ideals as the Taliban. One day, they will do another September 11. They are more dangerous than the Taliban right now because they are in power."

OK so I'm in danger of becoming a femininst. But not the bra burning see just how much testosterone fuelled mysoginist religious influence affects us all (men and religion ..or man-made religion, however you care to view it - oh the joys!) ~ read

"Nobody will ever win the Battle of the Sexes. There's just too much fraternizing with the enemy" ~ Henry Kissinger - and without doubt thats what scares the crap out of the jihadists.


At Friday, 10 November, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the solution though? I can't see places like Afghanistan changing any time in the near future. You couldn't get a more misogynist culture than the tribal muslim culture.

The only way the west could make a real difference would be an actual iron fisted imperialist occupation of hell holes such as Afghanistan, in much the same way as the British colonised India. Introducing secular state, education, sanitation, taxes, health care etc. But it's afghanistan. It's a composite of tribes with young males that now have poppy fields, ak47s and want to be cool and in with the 'OBL crew'

At Friday, 10 November, 2006, Anonymous Maggie said...

I would love to disagree with Jonz and say that change is possible. Unfortunately the system they have, which is a disgusting denial of human rights, has been around for thousands of years. On the other hand Joya and her kind have not and I wish her every success. The war in Afghanistan has to end in a victory for the West and then perhaps Joya can have some kind of life, I like to think so.

At Friday, 10 November, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know what you mean maggie. I do wish Joya and her kind the best of luck but, sadly I can't see much changing soon.

Afghanistan was only introduced to democracy in 2003. There's always inertia to change. But those guys are/where stuck im 7th century AD with a rapist murderer as their spiritual leader!

Democracy and equal rights took thousands of years for european stock.

At Saturday, 11 November, 2006, Anonymous Maggie said...

How ironic that the women of Afganistan want to be liberated, free of burkas and have a credible voice in the running of their country...i.e. they want to join the 21st century. Their warlords are holding them back.

In this country Muslim women are choosing to wrap themselves in the vetements that underpin their subservience to men, thereby undermining efforts to identfiy women as equal to men.

At Monday, 13 November, 2006, Blogger MonicaR said...

D'ya see why I can't stand Frist???!!! D'ya see why the conservative base is so PISSED OFF at the GOP right now? D'ya see what the guys we put in the majority are saying??? That is one reason they are no longer the majority.

They do not represent us at all.

At Monday, 13 November, 2006, Blogger Sir Percy said...

Alison - aside:

Will you be coming along on Saturday to meet PR in London?

I sent S. the details last week.


At Monday, 20 November, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey we need more posts! Come on Alison!


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