Clowns & Jokers

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006

The Courage of Iranian Women

This is an excellent post.

This is what they wanted:

- Banning polygamy;
- Reversal of men's uncontested right to divorce;
- Equal child custody rights for mothers and fathers;
- Equal rights in marriage (such as a woman's right to choose where she works, to travel freely, etc.);
- Increase in the legal age of children to 18 years of age (currently girls are viewed as adults at 9 years of age and boys at 15 years of age, making them eligible to be tried as adults);
- Equal value placed on women's testimony in court; and

Feminists of Europe, have some shame! These are your sisters being beaten up. They want the same rights as you. Why do you think Iranian women are not worthy of your support??????

Yes I wondered that myself a few months back.

Noone seems to be arsed to do anything. Whether that be to protect free speech here or support women whose rights are nothing in comparison to ours. Nothing! I wonder if we dont need to lose some freedoms to want them.


At Wednesday, 21 June, 2006, Anonymous Enid said...

Great post...keep it going Iranian women, die if you have to but keep fighting. You are equal and always have been try populating the world without women. Where are you our liberal Western Sisters..can we cry out in support. Can our *****MSM help them!

At Wednesday, 21 June, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Well thats the thing isnt it- if you read any bleeding heart liberals chattering on about anything in the press its certainly NOT about women struggling for very basic rights in Iran. Most of them are happily endorsing the f****** burqa as a the latter day symbol of womens 'rights' in 2006, aint multi culturalism grand?

At Wednesday, 21 June, 2006, Blogger Rastaman said...

I read a good article some time back how Muslim women are raised to see themselves as being vaginas. The more they covered themselves the more they saw themselves that way, so if they are totally burkaed and peer thru a little screened slit, then they see themselves as being all vagina. The article made sense.

I get flak from time to time from Muslims for attacking Islam itself instead of the actions of its practicers, but the plain truth is that all the problems of Iran and other Islamic-ruled nations will never go away until they get rid of Islam. That screwed up doctrine is the source of their misery.

In the Islamic texts, the supposed "immutable word of God" supports virtually any action if it spreads Islam. Literally. Love your neighbor, kill your neighbor. Protect children, rape children. It's all good in the eyes of Allah. All behavior is excusable and all laws come from the texts. How then can they possibly hope to have cohesive and ordered societies?

The Iranian people need another revolution, this time against the ayatollahs and imams and mullahs, then perhaps they can finally find the middle road.

At Wednesday, 21 June, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Rasta - I wonder if the article was by Ayaan Hirsi Ali as thats what she says....

Where do you stand on religion generally?

At Wednesday, 21 June, 2006, Blogger Rastaman said...

Religion is fine as long as it doesn't pull people into doing really stupid things, such as anti-social behavior, warped, unrealistic values and so on. Right-wing Christianity is a good example of that. The KKK was born of it.

Rastafarianism is the belief that Haille Selassie, deceased Emperor of Ethiopia, was a true Christian Prophet. Some believe he was the second coming of Christ, some don't. The religion is very disorganized and makes a big issue of wearing dreads, maybe more so than exactly what the Lion of Judah really was. What I think in regard to that is my business, no offense.

Religion is superstition. This can't be denied by anyone. What we believe about ANYTHING is not necessarily reality. We may believe a certain store sells a certain item, only to find they sold out last year. Believing is a touch-and-go thing. We all do it because none of us knows everything and we have to fill in the voids with SOMETHING in order to keep making all the decisions that life constantly forces on us. Decisions are based on information, on what we know. What we don't know, we believe and hope we have good guess factors so we don't make bad decisions.

Religion is just one more way to try to light up all that darkness. Nothing more. Certainly nothing to make into a Be-all, Do-all in ones life. Religion is all guesswork and most of that is bad guesses, which is why doctrines like Islam that start from hate end up causing harm instead of lighting a good and happy way.

And that's where I stand on religion.

At Thursday, 22 June, 2006, Blogger Tom Tyler said...

This complete silence from the so-called "radical feminist" groups simply shows up their real aims. Most of such groups are merely branches of the SWP and so on; they are not really interested so much in women's equality, but use it as a vehicle to further their aims of socialist utopia. "Women" are just a convenient victim group to them, and now Muslims are viewed as another victim group in "the struggle against intolerance and inequality" etc. So they don't care about REAL oppression of REAL female human beings, it's just a political tool to them.
But I think you know that.

At Friday, 23 June, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Tyler- you hit the nail on the head. I dont even need to comment....

Except to say that Euro-Feminists sure know how to pipe up about Bush and the 'crimes' at Guantinamo Bay....

At Monday, 26 June, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Yes I do...the left are a bunch of phonies generally.

At Monday, 26 June, 2006, Blogger Annie said...

Women have been marginalized historically by many groups, but women under the tenets of Islam, I believe, have suffered the most.

How can we in the West help?

At Tuesday, 27 June, 2006, Anonymous alison said...

Hi Annie - it is limited yes but re focusing that western lefty mindset onto what i always thought the left were supposed to be good at would be a start. As List Administrator correctly summises there is such furore over Guantanamo and yet silence over the struggle for basic rights in Iran. I understand they hauled one activist off after the demos and noone knows what is happening to him. Is that not worthy of MSM coverage if Guantanamo is anything to go by? The left are full of crap.


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